According to the forums, 'collecting and distributing money' in any way, shape, or form, is against the agreement.
I know, but i want to hear from them that we can't have character sheets any month I am poor.
I say fuck them. I've said it multiple times, but if they're going to come over here and say 'You! Stop running this game that happens IN YOUR BACKYARD' when people like OWbN have sworn to keep going, then they're bigger asshats than I thought.
We could always print our own sheets, too, and bring them to you to sign.
The bit that gets me? Any characters we create are property of White Wolf and may be used as Canon fodder at any point in time.
There was another point I was going to make, but I can't remember what it is. Poo. It'll come to me.
We could always print our own sheets, too, and bring them to you to sign
I though of that as an option, but i have a hard enough time getting rsvps, i doubt i could get 100% of people to remember their sheets every time.
In the end, I'm thinkI will be counting on the fact that we will be under their radar. So the webpage will have to come down :(
Well, if Riley and I can get our sheets, we'll start printing ours and bringing them, to save you costs anyhoo.
Aw, godsdamn webpage :(
Printing is no issue at the moment, so no need to worry. It is more a future consideration that I am looking out for
Ah, that's it.
There's no licencing agreement in their old stuff. Not even a 'licence subject to change without notice'. So this is, in fact, ass. They can try and levy it on their new stuff all they like, but they can go whistle for the old stuff.
*this from the girl who's only legal experience was HSC level Legal Studies. And a ticket in the traffic court*
Hopefully someone who really knows about legal stuff will atke them on, then we will know for sure
James has his solicitor looking over it for Sin City.
Yeah, this sucks for him much more than for me
Wizards owns a stake in WW, I have seen their legal documents, as has anyone who entered that competition to have your idea made into the next campaign setting. They are really all about controlling as much of the gaming industry as possible.
They also have a whole mess of greed for IP...hopefully you will get a response, but I would not be surprised if they just refer us to their documentation.
Yeah. the only reason that i thought it was worth a try was that it said
"If you are unsure whether the game you are interested in falls under this license, please contact Philippe Boulle, Marketing Director of White Wolf Publishing, at firstname.lastname@example.org. "
So that is what i did :)
at present you have never charged for your game and you never will - if there is to be an ingame party people can give money to me to buy there lunch - as I am nothing more than a player there is no harm in me bringing them lunch :)
Secondly - I really do think that you not charging saves this game. It may become an issue in later times but for now it is ok. Keep the website and just advertise it as free.
Yeah. This is about getting information out of them, and covering myself. I don't think the game would fold over this
there is a lot of discussion of this on aus_gamers
you might want to look at, if you haven't already...